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Ep #165: Matt Gerlach: Chasing Money or Living Life? Here's How to Do Both

• Beate Chelette • Episode 165

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Matt Gerlach reveals how you can stop choosing between chasing money and enjoying life. Watch now to discover how to have both!



Have you ever felt like you did everything right—built a successful career, achieved financial stability—but still woke up wondering, "Is this all there is?" If that resonates, you're not alone. In this episode of the Business Growth Architect Show, our guest, Matt Gerlach, bravely shares his personal journey from outward success to profound inner depression, revealing how he realized the life he'd carefully built was no longer aligned with who he was.


Matt speaks openly about his moment of crisis and clarity—how, despite making a million dollars a year, he felt anxiety, sadness, and even despair creeping into his daily life. Instead of burying uncomfortable feelings, Matt chose to listen to them. His journey to alignment was intense, transformative, and filled with powerful lessons on fulfillment, spirituality, and trusting in life's bigger plan.


Throughout this episode, Matt emphasizes the need to make changes in your life if it doesn’t work for you anymore, and the  importance of finding joy in small, meaningful moments, celebrating incremental growth, and building a life that resonates on a deeply personal level. He explains why making a massive shift doesn't necessarily require dramatic leaps; instead, real change often begins quietly, with simple, intentional steps.


If Matt’s story has sparked something within you, don’t wait. Visit his website at mattgerlach.com to download his powerful five-step guide or schedule your own free clarity call. He welcomes your questions and reflections, so feel free to reach out directly or share your thoughts in the comments below—your insights could inspire someone else on their journey to alignment!


#Money #Inspiration #PersonalGrowth  #SuccessMindset #LifeAlignment 


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Matt Gerlach:

Hi Matt Gerlach, and I am a coach, guide, and mentor. And on my episode for the Business Growth Architect Show, I will show you how to find alignment and create fulfilling lives and businesses. Listen to the full show to find out exactly how

BEATE CHELETTE:

and Hello, fabulous person! Beate Chelette, here I am the host of the host of the Business Growth Architect Show and I want to welcome you to today's episode where we discuss how to navigate strategy and spirituality to achieve time and financial freedom. Truly successful people have learned how to master both a clear intention and a strategy to execute that in a spiritual practice that will help them to stay in alignment and on purpose. Please enjoy the show and listen to what our guest today has to say about this very topic. Welcome back. Beate, the business growth architect. Today live with Matt Gerlach, and Matt and I had a phenomenal conversation about aligned businesses purposes being enough what it takes to get started the patterns that keep you away from doing the things that you need to do. So Matt, I'm excited to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here today.

Matt Gerlach:

Thank you so much for having me. I'm honored to be here with you.

BEATE CHELETTE:

So for somebody who's never heard about you or is not familiar with your work, what do you do and what problem do you solve for your clients,

Matt Gerlach:

fulfillment. I after a journey through creating my own unfulfilling and misaligned business, I help entrepreneurs align their lives with their businesses, because we know they're related and have them out of alignment, makes us suffer. It makes us have health problems, emotionally and physically. And I really help people make a lot of money doing things that they enjoy doing with their lives.

BEATE CHELETTE:

So why is this even relevant right now? I mean, if I turn on the TV and I listen to the political messages or any message. Right now, it seems to be more money is better. If I had enough money, I could throw it at everything, and then magically, all my problems will go away, because, after all, I have money. What do you say to that? Money

Matt Gerlach:

doesn't solve every problem? Money does solve a lot of problems, and I would agree that that is what's out in the universe right now a lot, and I think it's partly valid. But at the end of the day, none of us are promised tomorrow. We all know people who have had their lives end too early, while they have been waiting for tomorrow, waiting to enjoy their lives after they sold the business. We're supposed to be making lives that we enjoy living now, and that is what I firmly believe, and that's what I help my clients figure out and execute upon. Well, luckily,

BEATE CHELETTE:

I believe the same thing. I'm from a different generation where we were taught hard work is everything and don't owe anything to anyone, and don't let anybody see you down, portray your image in a particular way. So what do you think has changed? Has there been a for better words, a change in consciousness? Has there been a great awakening, a mass activation? What's going on in the market,

Matt Gerlach:

my belief would be largely this is like, this is largely economically driven in terms of change. I was actually reading, I think it was the New York Times this morning, an article about how this woman, who I think she was in her 60s, was saying that I feel bad taking my senior citizen discount now, because when this started, it was when seniors were generally not okay. Now we have more wealth than people in their 30s and 40s. And it really got me to think about like, this is what's going on. I mean, people in their 30s and 40s right now are struggling more than ever to buy homes, to afford their lives. And I think it's just completely changed things where now if we're not going to be able to afford to buy the nice home, then we want to create a life that feels good and doing what we can within our control to be enjoying our lives. I mean, I don't really know anybody in corporate life right now that's working for a corporation who's happy. I don't really know many people working for corporations who are getting paid more today than they were a few years ago. Either. Of course, there's exceptions to that, but people who are performance based companies aren't doing as well as they once were. Right now, like the whole thing is changing because we want to enjoy our lives. And I had to make this big decision for myself a couple of years ago, when I was starting my coaching business, all these people out there saying, make a business that you could sell, make a business that has value beyond you one day. And I think that's very wise, don't get me wrong. But for myself, I looked within myself and what I want. I want a job that I enjoy doing for the next 50 years or 40 years. I don't want to be working very hard in my 70s, but I do still want to be working. Because I want to maintain my sharpness, and I think there's just a huge change, I mean, largely driven from economics, as I said, but also life expectancy being so much longer. And I don't know, I saw my grandparents retire at 55 years old and sit in a couch for 30 years, and that's not what I want for my life. I

BEATE CHELETTE:

think that's a really interesting point you're making. And I don't think I've really thought about it quite like that, but I think you have a very valid point. There is this piece where we say the lie of the matrix, and I'll just call it freely, the matrix is that we are working ourselves to death. We give our time in exchange for money to reach a particular point at some point in the future, at which then when we I guess, it's retired, which is why people are so upset if that point is moved from 65 to 67 or, God forbid, 68 or 69 is because they've been believing this their entire lives, and so did their parents, that if they were to get to this point, life would be amazing, and now that the people that get there are realizing, well, it's a lie, it's a lie. So you figured this out. How did you figure out that this was going to be a lie? Well,

Matt Gerlach:

I checked all the boxes my whole life. I've been working since I've been 15 years old. During college, I actually worked full time at a hospital, working as a heart monitor technician and unit secretary. And looking back on this, I really have quite a bit of compassion for 18, 19, year old Matt gar lack who did this? It was, I mean, it was a very mature job that an 18 or 19 year old who's looking to enjoy their lives and find themselves should not have been doing because it wasn't very enjoyable. But I continued. I graduated college, became a metal sales person. I highly doubt anybody is going to bed at night dreaming of becoming a metal salesman when they graduate college, and kept doing that. Luckily, in 2008 the economy hit the metal sales industry pretty tough, and I had to make a change. Which was the which was one of the biggest gifts I've ever been given. And I decided to move from Los Angeles to New York. It had always been my dream to move to New York, and I wound up selling baby products, not necessarily something I dreamed about, but it was a very, very nice industry, and everyone was really sweet. I worked for my first entrepreneurial company. I started at the company when it was a $3 million company, and overnight it grew to be a $30 million company, and then went on to become well over $100 million company. I eventually decided to start a consulting business. Before I started coaching, I started consulting, and I helped small, medium, baby product brands with their sales and revenue generation and just overall business. I had been in the industry for a long time and learned quite a bit, and immediately, when I started this business, I was plagued with what I would have called at the time, just worrying. I was incessantly worrying, and I was sad. I'm using the words that I would have been able to identify back then with Yes, and I felt I was, I never attempted suicide, but, um, I was worried that that was something that could happen because I was suffering so badly, and I it provoked a massive healing journey, and I have spent well over $200,000 10s of 1000s of hours. I became a yoga teacher. I engaged in tons of coaching and therapy and programs and meditation retreats and the whole nine yards, and I ended up leaving this business that I grew to where I was earning a million dollars a year from because I wasn't satisfied. It wasn't fulfilling. Like we think that once we get to this place where we have the money, all of our problems are gone. And don't get me wrong, Money solves a lot of problems. The reason I'm here right now is because I've had I have a cushion to allow me to make this pivot. So when I'm working with people, there has to be some sort of financial planning process, whether that is moving in with somebody or living off of savings or something. I mean, it is a fundamental need of ours to be able to eat. But I can tell you that since I've changed and left something that was not fulfilling me, my life has never been better, and money is not what it was at that point, and it's growing. I believe it'll get back there and beyond, but at the end of the day, our problems are still there. When we have money, we have more money to be able to buy fancier wine and champagne and go on vacations, but at the end of the day, the problems are all still there, and that's why I have really gone into this coaching business that I call really a solution to fulfillment, to helping people find and understand what truly they want for themselves.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Yeah, it's a very powerful, powerful way to put that is, I think, the realization when. Are in the matrix, or in the belief system, or in the story that you've been told, and then you wake up and you say, I've done everything by the book, and I am so unhappy. There are three choices that you have. You're either going to blow up your health, you're going to blow up your relationship, or you're going to blow up your business or your career. Because those are the only three options that you have. That's one of my things, Matt, when I speak to my clients, I can already tell which is the most likely to blow up, because if they have a good relationship, they're not going to blow that up. But if they are iffy on, you know, their own health, or they're already iffy on their business, we already know that you're now standing a 50-50, chance of blowing either one or both up because you're not making the changes that you need to be making. So we're going to take a quick break, and then we'll talk about what we can do about this. So Matt, take me through this so somebody now figures out I need more and not necessarily more in the sense of money. Let's just assume, for the sake of this show, we all know you need to make money, you need to pay your bills, you need to have some left. You want to have a good life. But somebody feels that they're out of alignment. Do they know they're out of alignment?

Matt Gerlach:

If they're coming to me, they know they're out of alignment. They may not be using those exact words, but they know something's wrong. When a client finds me, they have already achieved some level of success, and they thought that when they got to the certain place that they're at, they feel better and they feel like something's missing in their lives. They're not sure what it is. They're almost certainly not sure what it is. I'm a big believer in like you. You reach this point when you have that freedom in your life, once you aren't, once you aren't in this survival mode, when you have a little bit more bandwidth and you start to be able to dream about what's more. I just had a client this morning actually come to me very similar story to what most of my clients do. They're in their 40s, and they're successful, and they're like, What is next? I don't know myself well enough. I don't really know what I want with my life. I've always checked all the boxes, and now that I'm at this place in my life, I've been given these you know, I have a six month runway him and his partner had talked about having six months for him to figure out what he wants to do with his life. He doesn't know how to answer this question, and that's been a lot of my clients find me and they know something's out of alignment, they do not know what to do about it, though.

BEATE CHELETTE:

All right, so now I'm coming to you. I'm going I have this unspecified dissatisfaction. I'm already I'm unhappy. I can find purpose. I have no meaning. I'm not sure what it is. Where is the journey going?

Matt Gerlach:

We need to find out what they really want for their lives. And these are questions about like, you know, what fulfills you? What would you do if money wasn't in the equation? What do you and what do you want your days to look like? What do you want your days not to look like some people do come to me with a pretty good understanding of where they're at, and other people just completely have no idea, and they need to start with some rudimentary, just straight old journaling practice. Like, I don't like to tell my clients they have to do certain things. Like, you don't have to do yoga to work with me. You do have to journal to work with me at this point, because we need to understand what's going on beneath all of these desires. So I usually will start my clients out with making a list each day of what they want, just starting off what I like I want, and listing the things that you want, not things that you need, not things that you should want, but things that you want. And sometimes after just three or four days of that, we can start to develop some patterns. Sometimes it takes a few weeks before we start to see what really those patterns are telling us. But we need to understand what you really want for your lives, and a lot of it's just limiting beliefs. We want to be a writer, but we've been told that writers don't make money. Well, if you want to be a writer, let's explore the ways that writers can make money. And limiting beliefs are really, really detrimental to us. So what

BEATE CHELETTE:

I'm hearing you say is the journey is not an external journey. It's an internal journey.

Matt Gerlach:

Most of it is internal. Yeah.

BEATE CHELETTE:

So is it then correct to say that more success, and this is completely a leading question for full disclosure here, but is it then a true statement to say that success means you got to align the internal for it to align with the external. I

Matt Gerlach:

mean, I would say that's a more advanced definition of success. You know, I think that people need to reach a certain level of external success to have the privilege of starting to think about internal success on what it looks like. A lot of people are just in survival mode. And those aren't necessarily the people that I work with. Those aren't the people that are generally gravitated towards me. Those are people that are trying to survive. And I really work with people who are who have reached, who have exceeded the point of survival, and get to start asking themselves those questions.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I think. Okay, you're making a really good point, and let's just spend like, a minute on there now. And a lot of times, coaches have a tendency to go to people that need them but can't pay How did you reconcile that internally? Because to me, it's a question that doesn't get answered or addressed often enough, and it leaves a lot of people that are making their transition then stranded with no money and running back to another corporate job, only to be unhappy for even longer. How did you or how can one maneuver that? Or how, what do you tell your clients to maneuver that? I'm

Matt Gerlach:

smiling a little bit because it is a practice. Everybody wants this silver bullet. Everyone wants to hear like, what's your framework? And there is a framework. We are taking somebody along, but it's a very simple framework. Where are you now? Where do you want to be? What's in the way, like, what are the next steps we can take? I mean, frameworks don't need to be overly complicated, and this is why I work very closely with the smaller number of individuals, because I support them through the practice. And the practice is journaling. The practice is learning how to take care of yourself better. The practice is doing some sort of physical activity, like for me, like this morning I woke up I wasn't exactly like feeling perfect, you know? I mean, it's the weekend I ate a lot more cookies than what I would like to and what I know would have set me up for ultimate success. Today, I practice, I went out for my run, I did yoga, I meditated. I do these things because this is what we need to do to keep ourselves functioning in some levels. So there's not like a silver bullet, like if I just drink this magic protein drink or whatever, I feel perfect. This is kind of the two things that I do really require of my clients. They need to read so they can dream bigger, and so they're self servicing themselves and getting some answers for themselves. These books are so underrated, you know, I mean, $30 for a book, and you learn millions of dollars of people's lessons. What I really realized is, it's that. It's, you know, it's all the energy. It's all the universe like. And if I'm if I'm saying no to the wrong opportunities, I'm inherently saying yes to the right ones. And it takes patience. But this whole journey that I take my clients through is a journey of learning how to sit in discomfort and learn that they're not going to die from sitting in discomfort. But also, I am a yoga teacher, and I bring this into the equation as well. Yoga, we learn like you're not supposed to be sitting through horrible, excruciating pain. And there is help needed to decide what is discomfort and what is pain. And yeah, I mean, I've learned to sit through discomfort. Some days I do a little better than others, but for the most part, it's getting better over time, and the more that I say no to the wrong things, the more the right things are coming my way, and I help my clients do the same.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Do you believe that having this spiritual practice is the key to everything?

Matt Gerlach:

I do believe it makes things a lot easier. I would say that I have been a spiritual practitioner for quite some time. I am religious. I believe in God. I don't know that it's a man in the sky. I don't know that it's not but recently, I just found Kabbalah. Are you familiar with Kabbalah? This is quite remarkable. Kabbalah, I would say, is incredibly accessible and it's non controversial, in my opinion. I mean, it's pretty much what I've learned so far is an obstacle. Is an opportunity, an opportunity for what an opportunity to be more creative. Your client says, No, I don't want to work with you. That's an opportunity for you to do better job at showing your clients why they should work for you. You make a mistake. It's an opportunity to learn how to improve all of these things that happen are opportunities that are grooming us for something bigger in life, and I would say that Kabbalah has been incredibly helpful for me in this journey.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Yeah, and our show really is certainly not denominational in any way, but to say what resonates and what is the message that resonates? I have learned the deeper you go into any kind of method or any kind of spiritual teachings, and that could be even yoga, is that the more things are all aligned. It's all about quieting your mind. It's all about learning how to control that pesky voice in your head. Is all about learning how to think clean and to not allow your old stories, your trauma, your mismatched messaging to mess up your current life. And then, you know, stepping into the vision and holding that vision and then creating an energy with resonance to achieve this vision and bring that into your life. I have not seen any one where that's not the case, but the Catholics are certainly interpreting in a particular way, the Evangelicals too, because they believe that you have to have the one guy. Guy, and it happens to be mostly a guy in charge who holds the keys for you to be actually able to do that, which we know is bullshit, so everybody can have a direct connection to spirituality, universe, God, energy, whatever you kind of want to call that. So let's go and pivot a little bit now.

Matt Gerlach:

Yeah, the yoga No, look, I love what you said. I mean, I have stone sitting here on my desk. I practice meditation every morning. I journal. I am somehow a woman gave me the daily stoic about eight years ago when I read. I love the story, yeah, honestly, like, that's kind of where I'm going with this. Like, I practice yoga, all of these things work, but this Kabbalah thing has really, really worked. Stoicism, really, really worked. It's about having a variety and going where things go. These stones are all sitting here. There have been times when I've carried them from here to my bed to my dinner table. I sure, I mean, I'll try anything. And what resonates the most right now is this Kabbalah work so

BEATE CHELETTE:

Exactly. And you go through phases where you do different things. I was listening to this one interview with this one guy, and he goes, and he says, Well, I use my tarot cards to and I use my meditation to get information, and he does LSD and medicine journeys, and he uses all these modalities to help his clients by saying, let's use everything that's available to us, because it is all connected, to help you by finding What resonates with you. So I'm really glad you stopped me there to go deeper into that, because I think a lot of people are afraid of it, especially people that are Catholic or have been Evangelical, because or, you know, sometimes I think the Mormon Church or the Jehovah's Witnesses, where the doctrine is so intense that somebody says, Well, can I not be yoga? Curious what is so wrong about a different philosophy other than mine? So I'm glad you you say to our audience, it's okay, and

Matt Gerlach:

this is why I'm careful what like you don't have to practice yoga to work with me. You don't have to read the book of stoicism with me, but there's a lot of different modalities that we can explore together. And there was a book I read called "You're a Badass" by Jen Sincero. It was just really funny, I mean. And she said in this book, like, she's, like, I've coached 1000s of people. And she was, like, without spirituality, like no one's gotten that far, you know, like you have to have some sort of belief in just like the higher power taking over at a certain point. And that really spoke to me, and that can look different for everybody. And

BEATE CHELETTE:

it's so interesting some people that are really pushing back hard on the spirituality, because they think that spirituality has something to do with religion, organized religion, and there's some trauma around that. And I remember this great quote from Marian Williamson, and she says,"God doesn't ask, are you coming? God asks, Are you coming now or later?" I think that really puts it in perspective. You don't have a choice, because if you are getting to your death, but and you don't believe in anything, you're gonna have a pretty, pretty tough time transitioning. It's so interesting.

Matt Gerlach:

I've noticed myself, like, when I pray at night, like I've this has been massively demonstrating the growth that I've had over the years. Like I'm able to now say to God, like, use me as you see fit, like, I know you have a plan for me. And I remember 10 years ago, like, literally not being able to do that because I couldn't trust and and it took 10 years for me to get here, 10 years of me probably praying almost every single night, and now where I'm finally able to, like, let go. And I think that's the part of that spirituality that's so powerful, is that, like, we have to just trust that, and this is how I've remedied my anxiety so much. It's that I've learned to trust like this vision we have for ourselves, like when that's the only vision we're allowing it is really stressful when we allow for us to be flexible in life, that's when we are able to accomplish so much more than we ever thought possible.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Yeah, somebody else and that I'm gonna have on the podcast, said people rush to be safe so they can die safe. And I thought that put it in such good perspective to say, Can we lean into the experience of life and trust that it's a friendly universe. So let's talk about this for a second. So let's say I'm in the corporate job. Somehow I found this show, and now I'm listening to you, and I'm going, like, Okay, this is all really nice. Thank you for the yoga I've tried it not working for me. I hate my job. What do I do? I. Can't just, like, go into trust the universe and put on my white, flowy ceremonial clothes and and take the leap. I have to have a plan. What do I do for most of

Matt Gerlach:

my clients that come to me like this? It is getting clear on numbers, so we'll dig into numbers and see, like, you know, I mean, a lot of people in that situation, they do have freedom, and they need help understanding that they do have freedom, they need help understanding, like, what it's going to look like to take I mean, some of these people, like in that situation, have $3 million dollars in the bank, and they've never met anybody that are able to help them see that their bank account doesn't always need to keep going up, that they need to value their health. I say this to my clients often. If I came to you and said, like, you know your health is deteriorating, you either can keep down the corporate path you're on and die in three years, or you can make this choice, take this step back in some ways. Which would you choose? 100% of people are going to choose to take that step back. And we don't realize how close that that is to becoming a reality for some of us. And so it's really getting clear on the numbers and just understanding, like, what this looks like. And I'm very transparent with clients. I share a lot of my journey. I'm very vulnerable about it, my checking account, which had significant amount of money in it for this transition, then I have kind of, like, the next scary account, and then the scary account of starting to take money out of there's still plenty in the checking account. Like, money comes in. I've adjusted spending. This has changed. It's like I can't even, like, I can't even, I don't know how all this money's come my way. And it's not like there's like $100,000 falling from the sky every day, but it's just like things are, I don't know. Our home insurance gave us 1000 bucks the other day. Things start kind of happening, you know, and this worst case scenario never, like, never really comes to fruition. Like, we stopped going out to eat. We didn't really eat much in the first place out. I cook all the time at home, but like, you just start to realize what's important. And my coach said to me at the beginning of this journey, she's like, so you'll get creative. And then I was like, what does that mean? And then she's like, well, you have a big house, right? You can Airbnb up some of your rooms. And I was like, I don't want to do that. And then, like, as I progress down this journey, I'm like, You know what? I love meeting people. I'm bringing people into my home. And I'm like, how cool would it be to have, like, people coming from Europe and staying in my home and me cooking them breakfast? I'm getting creative about these opportunities.

BEATE CHELETTE:

So yeah, and that, that is big part of the surrender experiment is to say you don't judge the path. It creates the opportunity, because then oftentimes the stories afterward is then that the guests from Europe that came that connected with you, did the thing that then became the thing that, then you got involved with that then led to this incredible opportunity that would have never happened if you wouldn't have done that. If I am in a spot where I feel the dissatisfiction rising so much that I know it has something has to happen or I will die, or I will get sick, or I will blow up any part of my life. The trust into the voice that it's not misleading you, but it's leading you to something good, is the key, and then the not judging of the way, that's what I'm hearing from you absolutely.

Matt Gerlach:

I mean, our lives are always speaking to us and our job in life, if we want to do a good job at it, is to listen to those voices before they become heart attacks, before they become divorces, before they become car accidents from falling asleep while driving because we're exhausted from our jobs. But yeah, I mean, the call is to do something about those voices. And a lot of my clients come to me not really knowing what to do about them, and I help them through that. This is the thing also. So many of us think that, like, we need to have a plan, but when we've been going, going, going, checking these boxes our whole life, it does take some time to, like, unwind and to start allowing our creativity to start coming to light. So a few months ago, I started hosting. I call it the Friday brunch club. I invite a group of a group of local business leaders into my home every other Friday. And it's been something that I started doing. I never would have thought six months ago, when I was leaving my my high paying job, that this would be what I'm doing. I'm not charging for it either. It's really just my way to meet new people. And I mean, of course, it would be great if some of the people decide to work with me one day, but I'm also just kind of letting this unfold and seeing where it leads. And so far, it's been really things that people are saying about the growth they're experiencing at this brunch is incredible, and it's something that I am doing, and it's helping me gain me gain more confidence and clarity around my mission. So it's just kind of crazy that like the path does unfold. And I support people through this.

BEATE CHELETTE:

You had said something when we spoke for the first time. You said, find joy in starting small. Yeah. Do you want to as we're closing out, maybe explain what that means so, and then we'll tell people how they can find you

Matt Gerlach:

find joy in celebrating the small numbers. When I started this, I had goals, like, I want like, 100,000 people, yes, yeah, all these things. And now it's like, when somebody follows me on Instagram, which doesn't happen every day. You know, it happens once, maybe twice a week. I might get a new follower. I'm excited about it. I've learned to get excited about that on my website, people download this five step guide that helps people on their journey to building the life they want. It's exciting when somebody gives me their email address, when someone resonates enough with me to to want to share that information with them. And I've also had to embrace that I am not going to be some expert business internet marketer, I just am getting so, like, each Friday I have the seven people in my house, and this is seven people, seven times 26 that's 100 and like, 60 people a year that are coming through my door that I'm able to, like impact in their lives. Like, How incredible is that over the course of 10 years, that's like, that's 1600 people, and not even including the halo effect that happens. But we're not able to, like, we're not able to impact 100 people until we can start impacting 10. And we can't start impacting 10 till we can start impacting that one. And I think that's, from my experience, what keeps people from starting because, and I heard you on a podcast of yours earlier talking about, like, who even wants a million customers. Like, it's true, you know. I mean, shoot

BEATE CHELETTE:

me. Like, should shoot me, you know. I mean, I mean, certainly not, not today. I mean, if I had 1000 clients come tomorrow, what would I even do? So I do think that there is a conscious approach to that which I really appreciate you sharing. So for somebody who has now heard this and said, I should check Matt out. Where do we send them at? You

Matt Gerlach:

can email me directly. I don't normally give up my email address, but since you're local in LA, I'm assuming a lot of the people out there are as well. And you can email me directly at matt@mattgerlach.com, if you're in LA and interested. I do this Friday brunch club, and I'd love to hear from you if you're interested in attending, and think it might serve you. On my website, there is this guide which distills my $200,000 plus and 10,000 plus hours of work that will get you started on your journey, and you can schedule a free 45 minute call with me in there. But I'm just at this place where I'm looking to serve people and happy to help and however I can, so I encourage anyone to just reach out. And I'm on all the socials you can find that from the website as well. Excellent.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Thank you so much. Well, Matt, it's been a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me today, and that's it for us for today. So if you know anybody who is wanting to make the leap, or who is leaping and unhappy and need someone to help them dive into purpose. Please do share this episode and share some of the stuff that we talked about. We talked about this on the show a lot, but this is happening more and more and more and more. I've talked about the mass activation many, many, many times you can see it. It's not just me. There's a lot of us out there that are really here to support all of you into making your impact, into reaching the story that you want to tell the world. You're not alone, and with that, I say goodbye until next time. So appreciate you being here. Thank you so much for listening to the entire episode. Please subscribe to the podcast. Give us a five star, review a comment and share this episode with one more person, so that you can help us. Help more people. Thank you again, until next time. Goodbye.

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