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Ep #118: Marissa Levin: Feeling Good: Why Energy Matters for Success

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Learn how to think better for business success! Find out how to improve your mindset to achieve your goals with Marissa Levin.

In this episode of the Business Growth Architect Show podcast we speak with Marissa Levin, a seasoned entrepreneur and abundance business coach. We explore the complexities of managing business challenges while prioritizing personal growth and well-being.

Marissa shares valuable insights drawn from her extensive experience in coaching entrepreneurs and business leaders. She emphasizes the importance of protecting our energy and frequency, highlighting the need to say no and set boundaries even with family members when necessary. To demonstrate this, she shares a recent coaching example involving a client grappling with familial business pressures, Marissa underscores the significance of safeguarding personal priorities amid external demands.

Our conversation evolves into strategic business considerations, with Marissa addressing common obstacles faced by entrepreneurs. She emphasizes the critical need for businesses to pivot and adapt to changing circumstances, using the COVID-19 pandemic as a pivotal example. Marissa's approach emphasizes the importance of identifying and removing bottlenecks within organizations to facilitate growth and sustainability.

Moreover, we explore shifts in work culture and generational perspectives, examining the impact of instant gratification and evolving attitudes towards career progression. We touch upon the positive aspects of societal changes, including increased awareness around mental health and emotional well-being.

The episode culminates with a poignant reflection on the power of storytelling and vulnerability in healing and personal growth. Marissa shares her vision of empowering you through joyful principles and creating a global dialogue that embraces authenticity and resilience.

Join us for this transformative conversation on business strategy, leadership, and the pursuit of joyful, purpose-driven entrepreneurship. Tune in to the Business Growth Architecture podcast for insights and inspiration!

Time Stamps:

00:00 -  Introduction
02:18 - Understanding Joy
03:14 - Business Strategy and Spirituality
04:59 - Fulfilling Potential and Creating Community
06:20 -  Rethinking Retirement
08:08 -  Confidence and Inner Drive
11:30 - Adversities Faced in Entrepreneurship
13:05 - Embracing Resilience and Gratitude
13:53 - Advertisement
14:22 - Practical Mindset Tips
15:48 - Strategic Mindset
17:04 - Overcoming Business Challenges
19:20 - Building a Culture of Accountability
22:57 - Redefining Workplace Expectations
25:17  - Growing Awareness and Mental Well-being
28:11 - Healing and Changing Lives Together
32:52 - Connecting with Marissa Levin

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Marissa Levin:

Hi, this is Marissa Levin and I am founder and CEO of Marisa International. And on my episode for the business growth architecture, I shared and discussed the magic of growing older and better and knowing that even when we hit midlife as I go into my 57 here, I know that my best life is ahead of me, and that everything that I have experienced and all of the wisdom that I've accumulated up until this point, has only equipped me to step into my highest purpose. And I can't wait for you to experience this episode, and become inspired on how you can live your best life as well. And hello, fabulous person, Beate Chelette. Here I am the host of the business growth architecture. And I want to welcome you to today's episode, where we discuss how to navigate strategy and spirituality to achieve time and financial freedom. truly successful people have learned how to master both a clear intention and a strategy to execute that in a spiritual practice that will help them to stay in alignment and on purpose. These enjoy the show and listen to what our guest today has to say about this very topic.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Welcome back, Beate Chelette, here with Marissa Levin. And we are going to talk to you about a very, very big goal a 1 billion people impact goal that Marissa has to bring more joyful lives to that many people. Marissa, I'm so excited to have you on the show. Welcome. Thank you. I'm honored to be here. Thank you. So please tell our audience who you are, and what is up with 1 billion people that is a big, audacious, hairy goal. So I am Maria Sullivan. And as I enter my 57th year, which I have 30 years of entrepreneurial and leadership experience behind me, I'm a mom of two sons, 23 and 26. I've had my share of experiences that have truly stretched me my lifetime legacy mission. That's what I call it is to empower 1 billion people to live their most joyful lives. When you say, live their most joyful lives, I have to of course ask the question, what does that mean? What is a joyful life, it's, you know, it's a life with minimal suffering. And I won't say no suffering, because I don't think that's realistic. And it certainly is aspirational, to get to a place of no suffering. But really, to live a life of joy is to have a life where you have a sense of inner peace and contentment. And you're aligned and have congruence between your mind and your body and your heart and your spirit. And not that everything in your life is going exactly as planned. But you're able to be in a place of peace, which truly is what the path is to minimal suffering. And when we have minimal suffering, we have more joy. So it really is about finding the balance between suffering and joy. In anybody's book, you're very successful businesswoman. And yet, here we are, we talk about all these spiritual concepts. What does business strategy and spirituality have to do with each other in your world? You know, I have never known business growth and business strategy without spirituality. Because I believe and we've talked about this, we are spirits first, right? We are spirit first in human form, and everything that happens in our life, everything on our path, even though they're so you know, highly individual, high human unique. In every case, everything that happens in our life truly is there to expand our spirit. Like that's the purpose. For some people, it takes the path of entrepreneurship and business ownership. For others, it takes a different type of professional path. But for me as an entrepreneur, as someone who is just always in a state of evolving and growing and changing, that is the definition of the spiritual path. It is about constant openness, constant evolution, conscious self actualization always in motion from a spiritual perspective. And for me as a business owner, that's just how I've always looked at everything, right, I'm now launching my, well, I'm expanding my fifth business that I've launched over a year ago, that kind of has just coasted a little bit over the last year and a half as I've navigated some difficult personal things. But now I'm ready to fully expand and evolve that and while I have a very clear business strategy, and vision on how I'm going to do that, at the end of the day, this really is all about my spiritual evolution at its core as everything else is in our life when nice Do you the word? Have you been activated to do this? What would you answer? Have I been

Marissa Levin:

activated to do this? I think I came into the world like this. I don't know if I've been activated as in like, recently activated, I think me coming into this world, we all come into this world with a purpose. I think a lot of my purpose really stems centers around helping others fulfill their potential step into their higher purpose, create connection community, that really has kind of always been who I am at my core ever since when I was a little girl, I was just one of those people that always was bringing others together. And now you know, with 30 years of entrepreneurial experience, and wisdom and lessons learned under my belt, I'm able to take all of my experiences and package them in such a way I think, knowing how to partner with the right people and the right expertise to make the biggest global impact I've ever made. Honestly, like, that's really what excites me, one of

BEATE CHELETTE:

the things that I love about you, Marissa is that we had very early on a conversation about age. And I don't think it's being talked about a lot. I am going to be 60 this year, are we ever ready to retire? Are you ever ready to retire? And is that a concept that you think what do you think about the concept? Let me just ask that question.

Marissa Levin:

I don't think I'm ever going to retire. I mean, I think lots of people kind of look at me and wonder where I get my energy, or don't I ever want to slow down and I sold my last company a year and a half ago, it was July of 2022 that we sold it and

BEATE CHELETTE:

I may say it was a great exit. Right? If I if I remember this all correctly, it was a nominal accident. Yeah,

Marissa Levin:

yeah, it was it was it was a meaningful, excellent it. It's not that it was like a highly, highly lucrative exit where I never have to work again. But when you say great exit, like it was a very meaningful exit. But you know, after all of that, I really had to sit and contemplate, like what was next, you know, and I've been through that process of building companies and then exiting out of them and moving on to new things, and just constant evolution. And as I sit here now, you know, this is my 57 year, as I sit here now, and I just share with you, right before we started that my very first full time hire started today. And it's not just that I needed help, but the sim, the significance, and the symbolism of that person starting today is that I'm truly ready to step into, like my greatest vision and my highest potential that I've ever had. So I feel that I'm like the opposite of wanting to retire. I feel like everything that's occurred for me and that I've experienced in the last 30 years of business has prepared me for this point, when I am finally ready to be my greatest self and have my greatest impact. Where

BEATE CHELETTE:

do you get the kind of confidence from because a lot of people struggle with the confidence, right? And they and they go well, I sure would like to and I'm trying to read a couple books. But I feel that when I talk to you like this confidence is just like leapt, it's just like they are right. It's like, wow, so it's not so tell us about that. How do you do it? It's

Marissa Levin:

driven by like this feeling I have in my in my soul, right? Like, I think we talked about, like I haven't I, my spirits name is Joy, like I have personified her. She is my highest self. She's my inner voice, she lives within me like I can, I can feel her. And I know when I am in my zone of genius when I am feeling truly connected to my gifts, and my talents and my purpose. Like, she's really happy. Like, I just I have so much inner peace, right? Like I have so much I have so much joy within. And it's not a matter of whether or not I have competence, because believe that's kind of like an egocentric thing, right? Like, like our confidence really is connected to ego where our purpose is connected to our spirits, right? And so, for me, I'm driven by a desire to help others to elevate others to lift others. And a lot of that is just because of what my own personal experience has been right what my own human existence has been. And it's been challenging. Like, I've had a lot of challenges in my life. I mean, you don't get to almost 60 and not have had challenges and what we do with those challenges, some people you know, want to not even look at those challenges. Some people want to deny those challenges and some people end up being bitter rather than that. are right, what I've done with all my challenges as I really have looked at them as learning tools, right. And one of my most important teachers is rom Das. I mean, we've talked about the spiritual path, very deep spiritual path. And one of my most important teachers is rom Das, he talks about that we don't invite suffering in for ourselves or for others. But when it arrives, when he says, By the awful grace of God, you know, we can find the wisdom in the suffering. And so when I've gone through many, many different challenges, I really keep that perspective, like that is what helps me get through a lot of my dark times to just choose faith over fear and really dig into the patients and look for the wisdom. And then when I come out the other side, I just have this desire to want to bring that to other people to help them alleviate their own suffering. So it's not so much that I have this like amazing competence. Because I really believe confidence is rooted in ego. It's that I have a yearning to help others live more, more joyful and peaceful lives

BEATE CHELETTE:

as an interesting, interesting angle. And I think one that I want to just spend another minute or so on it, because that message to me is a really powerful message people oftentimes look for, well, I just wished I'd be as confident as you are you, you know, look at you, you overcame all these things like, well, you don't know how messy it was. And you know, the bit of tears that we cried, and the despair that you feel when you are in debt and stuffs breaking and things are not going your way, and you're being left and your love falls apart and your business falls apart. Because you've done so much that went wrong, and you still here, and you're more powerful than ever, is it that now it doesn't matter so much anymore, because you're like, compared to that, and that, that this is nothing? Or what's the attitude toward that? Yeah,

Marissa Levin:

I mean, I try and stay in a state of grace, we do the best we can. And I still even when things are difficult. I always woke up with profound gratitude for my life, right? Like, you wake up, you're able to take another breath, right? My you know, I've always had a lot of love in my life, I've never had to wonder where my next meal is coming from, I've always had a roof over my head, right? Like I just the basics, and everything is temporary, like the highs, the highs of life, you know, like the most amazing moments are temporary and the lowest lows are temporary. And so I think if you can move through life, even when you need to move through it breath, by breath, moment by moment, because that's all that you can focus on. Because the pain is so great, or the fear is so great if you can just focus on breath by breath. And moment by moment, you get three things. So I've come out the end the other side on a lot of different things. And, you know, I hope to I hope I have another 60 years ahead of me, right? Like, I mean, my goal was kind of like 120. So if I'm like, if I'm halfway there, I can pretty much guarantee that, that I'm going to have a lot more things and I'm going to have to contend with and you know, the rug is going to be pulled out from under me many, many more times. And it's okay, you know, I'll be fine. I'll be okay. But for me, like every day that you take a breath is an opportunity to grow and to give thanks, and to have grace and to help others. So that's just kind of how I look at it.

BEATE CHELETTE:

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Marissa Levin:

You know, face is my bed. And so it's the first thing that I see when I wake up. And it's the last thing that I see before I go to sleep is the sign that says Peace. And for me like creating peace in my life, it's just kind of always been my highest goal. And so, with that in mind, you know, I think about what I want my life to be. I'm also very big abraham hicks fan, right? So I listen to Tom. And yes, I listen to Abraham Hicks a lot, I use tools that they have a lot, like their focus wheel is a very helpful tool, I just started this new full time employee from ERISA International. And there, she just has so much to do. For you know, just to get me organized from like, my whole online presence and my digital marketing and my and you know, all the media that I want to do. I mean, I've got, I've got so much work for her, but I don't get stuck in the details. I am a big picture thinker. And what I'm creating through Mercer International is, it's a global entity, like it's a global conglomerate that's going to have a publishing arm, it's going to have education and training, it's going to have coaching, and it's going to have media and like, it's going to be big, and it's going to be far reaching, and it's going to be very impactful. And I just kind of keep my eye on that feeling, again, that I have in my heart of what I want to create. And I trust that like the details are going to work themselves out. And so I'm able to kind of, on a day to day basis, think about what is my lifetime legacy mission in terms of empowering 1 billion people to live their most joyful lives. And I keep my eyes focused on that. Didn't Louise Hay from Hay House? Start a publishing company or empire? Not until 60? or something? Yeah, I think I remember that story where she was, you know, because people always surprised that there are a lot of great ideas that are born at the later part, the later part of our journey. So I love that is a really, really big vision. Let's talk about strategy. So we talked a lot about spirituality and sort of how you get into mindset with your gratitude, practice with visioning with having ideas about the vibration supersedes, you know, everything else, because it's right, the feeling is everything. I don't want to say I struggle with it. But I think it's an everyday practice to say, what is my vibration right now? And how do I vibrate on all of them? For sure? Yeah, definitely. And to remember, Deepak Chopra has a great quote about vibration, that it helps to remember that everyone operates at their own level of consciousness, right. So you're gonna have many people around you throughout your life throughout your day, that operate at a much lower level of consciousness in terms of being in that place of fear and scarcity and lack. And we can empathize with them. Or we can say we can, we can have compassion for them. But we don't have to meet them where they are. Right. In fact, if we want to help elevate them, we should not meet them where they are. So being aware of that being mindful of the power of our own frequency, the power of our own vibration, and our own energy. And making sure that we protect that in every moment, is really important. And sometimes that means that we say no to people, and we have to disappoint people, if things don't feel good to us. Very difficult if it's family members. Yes, I just, I just coached a client this past week, about a week about that, who has siblings that are running a business and the business is not doing well. And they want to bring her in to help fix that business. She already has a business. And she's got a lot on her plate, and she doesn't want to disappoint her family members. And you know, I coached her and you know, I said, this is not your problem to fix. Like, yes, you might be the older sibling. But this is not your problem effects like they are adults. And they've got you know, they've got their own business challenges, but you have your own business challenges and you have your life and you have to be able to protect your own energy. We cannot be rescuers and fixers, for others at the expense of our own energy. We cannot it's been a long time to learn that lesson. I'm still learning it. If I'm really honest with you, what is it about the fixing in you share a little bit about where do you see business owners, entrepreneurs get stuck in your line of work? And then how do you how do you lay out the strategy for them to get out, obviously with their conceptual and spiritual principles or the joyful principles, but how do you help them to figure out what is the strategy for me to get out of it? So you know lots of things can derail a business and can derail a strategy. They can be internal within the company, they you know, they can be cultural, there can be toxic people they're going to be toxic process. CES. But then there are external things that happen that they have no control over, right? And if they're external, the ability to pivot is absolutely essential for business for business longevity and business success. If you drink too much of your own Kool Aid, if you think that your products and your solutions are so good, that no matter what are always going to be needed in the marketplace, you're going to go out of business, because what keeps a company in business is the ability to stay relevant. Okay. So if there are external changes, like, you know, you look at what happened with the pandemic, there were so many businesses that never would have thought that they should, or could adopt an online model. And those that realized that the only way they were going to survive was to create an online model. They're the ones that actually flourished, not just survived, and the ones who resisted the online format, they went out of business. So you need to be able to pivot and evolve with what's going on around you or out, you will become obsolete. So that's the answer, like there are external changes. Internally, there are lots of things that can derail a strategy move. Sometimes people get complacent, you know, they get stuck, you have too many egos at the table, you've got, you know, one leader or you know, one team member that is disengaged, or you know, is toxic, and it takes one, spoiled Apple to ruin the whole bunch, right? We're only as strong as our weakest link. And so it's what I coach my clients about is the need to be process centric, and not hero centric. So that's one ways in which that's one way in which companies really kind of create bottlenecks, I work a lot on removing, identifying and renew, removing the bottlenecks for my client organizations. Because that's where, you know, that's where the life flow chokes, right, it's in that bottleneck, and they can be hidden everywhere. I mean, people get like, so stuck in the weeds. So being able to really identify the bottlenecks, and also to have the courage and the ability to remove people who are no longer evolving with the organization, the Peter Principle inside companies is a real thing. That's where you promote people their highest level of incompetence. So you move people up the chain, just to show that you're, you know, loyal to them, excuse me. But if you end up promoting them out of their own zone of genius, then you end up with people who aren't able to do the job. And so you need to be able to either coach people up or coach people out. And if you can't do that, you're gonna have problem.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I like this a lot. So what I've heard is that in the strategic aspect of the way you help your clients, is that you look where what is and who does what, which are the really the two most important, two most important things anyway, why do get people caught up in this perception of loyalty to people that show up to work? Do you think this concept of just showing up and being rewarded of that is a problem in in, in the work culture in our own lives where we are with us? Yeah,

Marissa Levin:

I mean, I've never believed in like giving kids a trophy just for showing up on the team. You know, I think it creates a whole culture of entitlement. And I will tell you that in a lot of my client organizations, the younger generations, like they don't have the patience, to wait to be promoted and to wait to be rewarded. And to earn the earn the promotions, like they're so used to instant feedback, they're so used to instant gratification, that the idea of them like working somewhere for a few years, and then truly learning and then moving up slowly. It's just it's beyond their comprehension. And there, I do have clients where it is the younger generations that just feel that they can demand appreciation, you know, and it doesn't work that way. Like you have to earn the appreciation, you have to earn the respect, you know, just showing up isn't enough to be like rewarded. I mean, that that's the bare minimum, like if you're not going to show up, you shouldn't you shouldn't be on the payroll anyway. Right. So showing up as the bare minimum.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I actually say this to people all the time. Is that you, you know, there there are no points for being on time that is expected. There are no points for being good at what you do. That's why you get hired. There are no points for you being an expert. That's why you have the job. Right? Exactly. Everything you want is beyond that baseline, the foundational baseline of you actually able to deliver you know and when we when we work growth architecture, we built the the businesses And the value propositions. And then they say, Well, I'm a good person, and I show up on time. And I know my stuff. I'm like, that should be the expectation I have if you walk onto my site, and or into my office, because if you don't, you really should not be in business. Do you think that COVID has something to do with that, because in COVID, they couldn't find enough people. So they just threw a whole bunch of bodies, just to secure the talent, because they were so worried as everybody else was shopping, it was kind of like a nut case scenario, in my opinion, and to no surprise all these people that got these cushy jobs and all these great benefits, we're the first ones to be laid off. Right, right.

Marissa Levin:

Yeah, well, I think COVID You know, I mean, that disrupted just the global psyche, in ways that, you know, no one ever predicted, I mean, everything was fear based, right? Everything you know, and when things are fear based, we revert back to survival mode, we revert back to feeling like we need to take care of ourselves first. You know, it's us against the world. And unfortunately, I think that that attitude did kind of permeate the, you know, and kind of seep into the corporate landscape. We did a lot of coaching at that time with my former company in the one that we sold 18 months ago, we did a lot of coaching with leaders, about how do you lead in a pandemic, because it was new for them to right, like everybody in the whole world was going through it at the exact same time. And here are leaders who are on the hook for making sure that their people are performing. And they're performing under conditions that there was no playbook, like, no one had ever gone through it before. No one had ever been working in a pandemic, no one had ever been leading in a pandemic, like there was no right or wrong. It was literally figured out as you go along. on a case by case basis, and every organization there was it was rough. Yeah, I mean, I think COVID disrupted work and workflow in ways that will never get back to what they were pre pre pandemic level. Yeah, and

BEATE CHELETTE:

maybe maybe in a good way to I will say that I look at the generation, my daughter and her husband, and the desire to have a life now and not postpone life until you're 65 to get an RV and then you know, die of a heart attack and 70 I think there's a lot to be said about the quality of a younger generation to look at people that came before them and say, that is not desirable. And frankly, having been of this generation, where it was just like, first the work and then you get to enjoy yourself not once have I heard growing up, have a good time or feel good. It was always about did you get your work done. So I do think that the balance is important. Somebody said something really interesting. The other day that I read, and it was yeah, like places where you didn't get to talk about your feelings. And it made me think I can honestly say that in my entire childhood. The concept of talking about your feelings, it wasn't even a concept. I think we spoke never about our feelings. Ever. Do you think that there's a benefit, though, in how the world is changing? Right now, which I think you kind of testament for Marissa if I if I'm really honest, because you say I discovered how to be joyful. And now I want to take this message to 1 billion people. So where do you see the positive aspects for people where the opportunities?

Marissa Levin:

Yeah, I mean, that's pretty good. That's a great question. I mean, I feel that the world today like has a higher level of consciousness than it's ever had before. I mean, you just, you look at the information that's out there. You look at the Instagram feeds, the Facebook feeds, like, what is being talked about on different talk shows the focus on mental health, right awareness, mental health solutions, like the fact that these things are going to are being talked about is tremendous. It's wonderful to give people permission to heal their trauma to admit that they've had trauma, right? I mean, the only way that you can heal trauma is to admit it, right, we have a substance abuse problem in this in this country, in this world with, you know, people wanting to hide their feelings and be numb, to be numb to what life has dealt them. And obviously, that's not the healthy way to handle things. So if we are now at a place where we've created a container, you know, global container for people to talk about what they feel to address, feelings of sadness and anger and, and anxiety and despair and loneliness. I mean, loneliness is an epidemic that, you know, is just as dangerous regarding mortality levels as cancer, you know, I mean, we learned that during the pandemic, and so if we've created this global container where it is becoming safe and encouraged for people to share what their journeys have been to share what their traumas are, to know that in spite of their traumas, in spite of their fears, and their and their negative, so called negative emotions that they are loved and worthy and seen and heard and valued and wanted, if we can create a container that allows that and encourages and celebrates that that's a huge win.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I love that I couldn't, I couldn't agree with you more. I think that's why there's so many people that are showing up that are doing that kind of work that you and I are doing, and collaborating on a different level, where I've really found myself especially being a podcast host. I recognize on how many people there are, they're doing amazing work, and how many people there are, that are really here to change the world. And they're laying their souls bare and sharing stuff that they've never talked about. I mean, no, it's not been until my my, my journey that I had with Ayahuasca earlier this year that I even remembered some of the stuff that had happened, and then do I, you know, for the first time in my life, feeling safe and okay with saying it is what it is, and this is what happened, I was victimized, but I choose not to live as a victim. And that I think, is the most powerful message that people like you are bringing forward to say, yes, you have trauma, and yes, everybody has trauma. And yet, but I see yours, and I see you and I see who you are. But I'm gonna give you the tools not to be in the victimization mode on what that has caused, but to heal yourself and then go spread the word.

Marissa Levin:

Yeah, and thank you for bringing your story forward and creating the space and all of the these podcasting channels, right, all of these social media channels, all of these opportunities to be able to get the word out. And when you look at the publishing industry, you know, decades ago, it was that if you didn't sign with a large publishing company, you couldn't write a book, right? Well, everybody has a book in them, I truly believe that we all have stories that others can learn from, right. So that's an avenue, the podcasts, the app, or the app, or an app an avenue, the social media channels are an avenue newsletters are an avenue, everyone can, you know, actually get their own TV network, if they wanted to pay enough money to you know, to be on a cable network, there are so many avenues to be able to share your story and to create these containers and platforms for others to share. And this is what helps the world feel smaller. This is what connects us and gives people the opportunity to do that sharing, which is part of their own healing. So I think it's I think it's wonderful that we have you now have this, this mechanism now to allow others to share their own stories. It's a beautiful thing.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for that. So for somebody who wants to find out more about what you're doing right now and about you, where would we want to send them? Marisa?

Marissa Levin:

international.com is my website. And then I am very active on LinkedIn, Marissa Levin, Marissa 11. One is my is my LinkedIn address. And then I'm on Instagram as well. And I'm out there, you know, Google my name arrest Sullivan, you'll find me I'm kind of everywhere.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Excellent. Well, thank you so much. It's been wonderful to have you on the show. I appreciate you very, very much. I love your energy. I love your message. And I wish you to get to your goal much faster than you think you can. Oh,

Marissa Levin:

thank you. And I so appreciate the trust with your audience and with your show. I mean, it's, I honor that, and I'm grateful for it. Thank you.

BEATE CHELETTE:

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